1 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:06,710 a lot of work's been going on on board 2 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:08,160 the international space station to 3 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:10,559 return one of the emu's the extra 4 00:00:15,430 --> 00:00:12,960 vehicular mobility units uh the u.s 5 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:15,440 spacesuits back to service i'm scott 6 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:17,199 kelly back inside the airlocks today but 7 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:18,640 he's been in there quite a bit over the 8 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:20,160 last week and today we're going to learn 9 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:21,840 a little bit more about what's been 10 00:00:25,589 --> 00:00:23,600 going on joining me here in mission 11 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:25,599 control houston today one of our eva 12 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:28,320 experts alex canelecos alex you're kind 13 00:00:31,269 --> 00:00:30,000 of a regular on this show nowadays we 14 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:31,279 always bring in we were talking about 15 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:33,280 these spacesuits and uh it's really 16 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,880 great to have you here with us now to 17 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:36,480 give us a little bit more insight into 18 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:38,079 what's been going on well good morning 19 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:40,719 dan glad to be here so first i mean just 20 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:42,800 set it up for us what's been going on 21 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:44,320 because we've heard this is some of the 22 00:00:48,790 --> 00:00:46,640 most invasive some of the most complex 23 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,800 repair work you guys have ever had to do 24 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:50,079 on these spacesuits what's been 25 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:52,079 happening right so 26 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:54,239 what we've been dealing with is a 27 00:00:57,750 --> 00:00:55,920 failure of one of our fan pump 28 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:57,760 separators and this is what i'm holding 29 00:01:02,069 --> 00:01:00,399 here today it's a it's a 3d rapid 30 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:02,079 prototype of our fian pump water 31 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:05,119 separator and we've had several issues 32 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:06,799 on orbit with with the fan pump 33 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:10,880 separators and recently well in february 34 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:13,040 we actually had another failure and we 35 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:14,720 decided that we would remove the fan 36 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:18,159 pump separator from emu 3011. 37 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:20,479 this suit was scheduled to come home uh 38 00:01:25,830 --> 00:01:24,000 this summer on uh spacex and um 39 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:25,840 we decided we'll bring the water 40 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:29,280 separator and the fan pump uh home early 41 00:01:33,749 --> 00:01:31,119 and just leave that suit with an open 42 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:33,759 cavity well unfortunately our resupply 43 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:35,520 our new spacesuit that was also supposed 44 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:38,240 to launch on spacex did not make it and 45 00:01:44,550 --> 00:01:40,479 um instead of 46 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:44,560 bringing the old 3011 home we had to put 47 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:47,200 a new fan pump separator in installed 48 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:48,960 into this open cavity 49 00:01:53,670 --> 00:01:51,360 and get it back to service get the emu 50 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:53,680 back to service and so 51 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:55,759 in order to do that like you mentioned 52 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:57,840 it's very invasive we're opening 53 00:02:03,030 --> 00:01:59,360 cavities that were never meant to be 54 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:03,040 open during uh on orbit phases so on the 55 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:05,200 ground of course when the spacesuit gets 56 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:08,080 home the engineers do a lot of servicing 57 00:02:12,309 --> 00:02:09,920 on the on the different pieces um 58 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:12,319 there's very small screws small shims 59 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:14,800 that they'll take apart and um 60 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:16,319 it was never designed to do that on 61 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:19,280 orbit and the reason that this is is 62 00:02:21,670 --> 00:02:20,160 really 63 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:21,680 critical that we do it right is these 64 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:24,080 small pieces could really damage the 65 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:25,840 suit especially when we go out eba it's 66 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:27,040 something that we don't want to have 67 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,599 floating around inside the spacesuit 68 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:31,519 so that's part of it another part of it 69 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:33,840 is once we get the fan pump separator 70 00:02:37,350 --> 00:02:35,519 installed there's a lot of water 71 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,360 maintenance that has to happen our suit 72 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:39,840 is very sensitive to water impurities 73 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:41,920 and so we have to basically scrub the 74 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:43,920 water that's going through the suit we 75 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,400 also have to add iodine to help combat 76 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,239 any of the organic 77 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:50,879 components inside the suit and that's 78 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:53,200 what we've been doing the last week so 79 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,440 scott and chell have both been working 80 00:02:59,910 --> 00:02:57,840 on the suit and they've been installing 81 00:03:01,589 --> 00:02:59,920 the fan pump separator we also did a 82 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:01,599 couple 83 00:03:05,509 --> 00:03:03,440 more maintenance activities such as a 84 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:05,519 gas trap removal and replace and a water 85 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:07,680 line vent tube so several components we 86 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:09,840 replaced on the spacesuit and then we 87 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:11,680 got into our water maintenance so last 88 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:13,680 week we did a water 89 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:15,599 dump and fill where we dumped our 90 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:17,760 old water and filled it with new water 91 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:19,200 and then we started this week with 92 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,120 scrubbing the water and today we're 93 00:03:26,149 --> 00:03:24,000 doing a structural integrity test to 94 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:26,159 make sure that the fan pump separator 95 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:28,720 was installed correctly and that we're 96 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:30,640 not going to have any leakage when we go 97 00:03:34,149 --> 00:03:32,720 outside the next time okay and you kind 98 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:34,159 of touched on it but you know why is it 99 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:36,560 important to to do these 100 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:37,840 upgrades to make sure these suits are 101 00:03:40,869 --> 00:03:39,040 ready to go even though i mean we're not 102 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:40,879 doing an eva tomorrow why is it 103 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,560 important to have this thing you know 104 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:44,560 ready for prime time ready to go right 105 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:47,120 so we the the design of the evas is that 106 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:48,799 we'd always have four spacesuits ready 107 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:50,799 to go at all times and the reason for 108 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,640 that is that we never know when when one 109 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,159 spacesuit's not going to necessarily 110 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:56,239 check out correctly we want to give our 111 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:58,080 crew members the best suits to go out 112 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:00,080 the door with you know spacesuit is like 113 00:04:04,149 --> 00:04:02,080 his own spacecraft once it's 114 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:04,159 disconnected from umbilical and goes out 115 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:07,040 during an eva uh it it's on its own it's 116 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:08,959 it's life support everything is there 117 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,239 for the crew members we want to make 118 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:11,680 sure we're giving the best spacesuits 119 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,400 for our crew members and in addition to 120 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:16,560 that the spacesuits are sized um 121 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:18,079 differently so 122 00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:20,400 the hard upper torso there's three 123 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:22,320 different sizes and so they're connected 124 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,759 to the life support and so those are 125 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:25,840 have different sizes and so in order to 126 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:27,840 give us the best complement of 127 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:29,680 spacesuits with the crew members that we 128 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:31,840 have on board we have different sized 129 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,639 huts and and to 130 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:36,960 basically strategically match what 131 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:39,600 spacewalks could happen um that's that's 132 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:42,880 how we size our spacesuits there are 133 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:43,840 like you mentioned there are no 134 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:46,080 scheduled evs in the near future there 135 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:47,840 are some talks about some evas happening 136 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:50,000 in late october or early november time 137 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:50,800 frame 138 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:53,040 but we can always have the need to go 139 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:55,199 out the door if we have a major failure 140 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:56,800 of space station where we have to go and 141 00:05:01,430 --> 00:04:59,600 replace a critical component that's why 142 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:01,440 we have to be ready with our spacesuits 143 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,840 okay and so you you said so there's once 144 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:05,120 this one's back online there's going to 145 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:07,120 be four suits and then aside from the 146 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:09,440 suits you guys have spares and other 147 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,880 things like that on board too like you 148 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:13,120 had a spare fan pump ready to go you 149 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:14,720 know what's what's the status applies 150 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:16,639 for all that that's correct so we we do 151 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,800 have several uh spares of the critical 152 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:20,400 components of our life support in 153 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,120 addition we have lots of spares of our 154 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:25,440 um what we call the soft goods the more 155 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:26,720 the sizing 156 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,479 portions and that allows us to adapt to 157 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:30,240 the different crew members we're we're 158 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:32,000 fine as far as spares are considered on 159 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:34,240 orbit right now okay and one thing you 160 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:35,600 had touched on earlier i thought it was 161 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:37,199 interesting was 162 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:38,800 these suits weren't designed to 163 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:40,720 necessarily be repaired like this so i 164 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:42,320 mean what this has to be a really 165 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:44,240 difficult task you know take something 166 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:45,919 and i assume you do a lot of work here 167 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:48,160 on down on the ground first but to 168 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:49,680 figure out how to fix something that was 169 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:51,440 never meant to be fixed in this fashion 170 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:53,280 that's correct so we work hand in hand 171 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,160 with the 172 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:56,319 ground engineers to develop procedures 173 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,639 for the crew members to repair the 174 00:06:03,189 --> 00:06:01,280 spacesuit and do this invasive removal 175 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:03,199 and replacement of critical components 176 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:05,280 so you're right that we have to design 177 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:07,280 new procedures we also work with the 178 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:09,440 crew on on just training them right 179 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:11,360 these are these are components that are 180 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:13,039 loose once you release the screw it's 181 00:06:18,309 --> 00:06:15,520 it's free um so we have to be prepared 182 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:18,319 for that we use a lot of kapton tape and 183 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:20,479 and we even have a vacuum cleaner with a 184 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:21,919 netting over it ready to capture 185 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:24,000 anything that comes comes loose that the 186 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:26,160 crew members are unable to grab and and 187 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:28,319 that's really important and in addition 188 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,240 um some of the the things that you don't 189 00:06:35,189 --> 00:06:33,039 think about on on the ground is that you 190 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:35,199 have to have uh ways to restrain your 191 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,600 body when you're up there so the suit in 192 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,000 order to install this fan pump separator 193 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:42,720 it can't be structurally um 194 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:45,440 attached so that it's completely rigid 195 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:47,680 we actually have to allow it to to kind 196 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:50,720 of move in order to gain access to this 197 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:52,800 area and so that can be really difficult 198 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:54,080 for the crew members because they're 199 00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:56,240 they're not restrained um 200 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:58,319 as far as as normally being restrained 201 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:59,680 like you're you have two feet on the 202 00:07:03,029 --> 00:07:01,599 ground so we have to you know give them 203 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:03,039 advice of all right here's a good hand 204 00:07:06,629 --> 00:07:04,960 hold here and and things like that while 205 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:06,639 they use the tools so we're having to 206 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:08,080 repair something that wasn't meant to be 207 00:07:13,029 --> 00:07:09,840 repaired in an environment that we can't 208 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:13,039 test and then i mean it sounds tough so 209 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:14,720 i mean we're always looking forward 210 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:16,000 we're always looking forward what are 211 00:07:19,029 --> 00:07:17,280 some of the things you know we've been 212 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:19,039 using this suit for decades now what are 213 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:20,400 some of the things that we're learning 214 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:22,080 from having to do this kind of stuff on 215 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:23,599 space station that we're hopefully going 216 00:07:27,589 --> 00:07:25,440 to be able to apply to suits you know 217 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:27,599 when we're heading off to mars yeah 218 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:28,880 that's a great point you know the 219 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:31,039 spacesuits in big picture people think 220 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:32,400 of spacesuits is this is how you're 221 00:07:36,309 --> 00:07:34,560 using this the space station as far as 222 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:36,319 maintaining it you know the spacesuits 223 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:38,960 are allow us to get basically into our 224 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,319 uh 225 00:07:44,309 --> 00:07:42,560 mobility to go outside the door and 226 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:44,319 repair things and and make sure that 227 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:46,400 we're keeping our space station 228 00:07:50,710 --> 00:07:48,639 up and running but in addition we are 229 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:50,720 using the spacesuits as kind of an 230 00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:52,400 experiment in themselves when we go to 231 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:54,479 different locations or or to even 232 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:56,400 improve on the next spacesuit so we are 233 00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:59,520 learning a lot of things just doing the 234 00:08:03,110 --> 00:08:01,199 removal and replacement we're learning 235 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:03,120 all right we need to design our next 236 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,759 spacesuit so that we can gain access to 237 00:08:09,909 --> 00:08:07,919 critical components easier we need to 238 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:09,919 make sure that the fasteners and the 239 00:08:13,589 --> 00:08:11,919 bolts that are installed are captive so 240 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:13,599 that when you release them they're not 241 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:15,280 going to be floating or flying away 242 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,639 right so there's there's a lot of those 243 00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:19,120 things in addition where we're learning 244 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:21,919 um design because of what caused the 245 00:08:25,909 --> 00:08:23,840 failure we're learning how to design you 246 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:25,919 know new components you know so that 247 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:27,599 they're more resistance to water 248 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:30,400 impurities and they're more resistant to 249 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:33,120 uh corrosion things like that okay well 250 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:35,440 again a lot of really invasive but a lot 251 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:37,120 of really important work taking place in 252 00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:38,880 those spacesuits over the last week or 253 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:41,279 so on board space station alex canelecos 254 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:43,919 our local resident eva expert giving us